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OpenClaw nonprofit jab draws Hermes "rent free" reply

Peter Steinberger posted about OpenClaw's recent direction. "People here discussing what happened with OpenClaw. The hype died down. We improved quality and grew a team. We created a non-profit whereas competiors are VC funded and have other agendas. This is our strongest week so far."

Teknium from the Hermes side responed to this. "Do we live rent free in your head? We all know what non profit means to people at OpenAI, nothing at all. Enjoy the millions you’re making from that non profit that hired you to pay you with VC money and an agenda."

The exchange pulled in replies about copied features and missing security reports. One side claimed the other skipped hardening. The other side answered that it avoided exposing agents through unneeded hubs.

Real tool friction shows in user reports

Sudo su described running the Hermes agent on step 3.7 flash. "hermes agent on step 3.7 flash building a benchmark on my dgx spark without missing a beat. most reliable agentic stack i've run. every other agent i've tried buries you in bloated tools you never use. openclaw was the worst of it. felt like coding with an anchor tied to my leg. stop running bloatware. run something that executes."

Multiple developers reported the same pattern. OpenClaw gateway failures arrived every day. Hermes stayed responsive through heavy runs. One account said they spent months debugging OpenClaw before switching and then logged zero drama. Another called the repeated harness fixes hateful and moved on after too many breaks.

A separate contributor noted the block arrived right after they began sending pull requests to Hermes. Some OpenClaw users still call the latest builds stable enough for daily work. The back and forth keeps surfacing fresh migration stories and fresh defense posts.

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